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> <channel><title>Comments on: Extreme Simmer: The SousVide Supreme</title> <atom:link href="http://www.endlesssimmer.com/2010/07/26/extreme-simmer-the-sousvide-supreme/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.endlesssimmer.com/2010/07/26/extreme-simmer-the-sousvide-supreme/</link> <description>- recipes, restaurants, food travel and everything edible</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 05:05:41 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator> <item><title>By: D. Nelson</title><link>http://www.endlesssimmer.com/2010/07/26/extreme-simmer-the-sousvide-supreme/comment-page-1/#comment-104588</link> <dc:creator>D. Nelson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 00:13:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=13357#comment-104588</guid> <description><![CDATA[Obviously a review by someone who didn&#039;t properly research or learn to use the equipment and cooking method properly and probably not realizing this is a low and slow pasturing method of cooking heated everything up to the 2 second doneness standard which means everything was over cooked.. Sous-Vida requires completely relearning everything you thought you knew about cooking temperatures, safety and doneness.
Sous-Vide is a low and slow pasturing method of cooking that allows you to precisely control texture and moisture content by not having to worry about bringing food up to the ridiculously hot traditional 2 second standard doneness temperatures which not only effectively destroys pathogens in 2 seconds it also destroys delicate protein cell structures which causes the cells to release their moisture..
For example Chicken breasts are perfectly safe to cook to an internal temperature of 131.5 degrees ala sous-vide. The problem with this is that sometimes you just can&#039;t teach old dogs new tricks and in this case it seems like many old timers just can&#039;t seem to get past the old 2 second doneness temperature standards..
Although its perfectly safe to cook poultry ala sous-vide to an internal temp as low as 131.5 most people prefer the texture of chicken breasts cooked sous-vide at about 140 or so.. The main benefit here is that 140 degrees is just below the point where protein cells begin to rupture and release their moisture content yet high enough to kill all those nasty pathogens given the proper time..
For example there&#039;s no other cooking method that can safely compete with Sous-vIde in producing a tender moist skinless boneless chicken breast without the risk of under cooking..    You would need to cook a chicken breast up to 185 internal to make it as safe to eat as the Same chicken breast cooked Sous-vide at 140 for 1.5 hours, Now which one do you think is going to be moist and tender and which one is going to be saw dust.
All cooking is a form of pasteurizing which kills the nasty pathogens that make you sick. Now those pathogens  can either be killed by high temperatures maintained  for 2 seconds or low temperatures maintained for much longer period of times. All normal food related Pathogens that can be eradicated at 165-185 degrees  can also be eradicated at 131.5 which is the lowest temperature that will eradicate them.. Of course the main pathogens we are concerned with here are Listeria, E-coil, Salmonella and Botulism
Once again Pasteurizing is time and temperature variable, Once you understand this Sous-vide opens up a whole new world of amazing flavors and textures but its one of those cooking methods where you need to be at least 10 percent smarter than the equipment you&#039;re using]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously a review by someone who didn&#8217;t properly research or learn to use the equipment and cooking method properly and probably not realizing this is a low and slow pasturing method of cooking heated everything up to the 2 second doneness standard which means everything was over cooked.. Sous-Vida requires completely relearning everything you thought you knew about cooking temperatures, safety and doneness.</p><p>Sous-Vide is a low and slow pasturing method of cooking that allows you to precisely control texture and moisture content by not having to worry about bringing food up to the ridiculously hot traditional 2 second standard doneness temperatures which not only effectively destroys pathogens in 2 seconds it also destroys delicate protein cell structures which causes the cells to release their moisture..</p><p> For example Chicken breasts are perfectly safe to cook to an internal temperature of 131.5 degrees ala sous-vide. The problem with this is that sometimes you just can&#8217;t teach old dogs new tricks and in this case it seems like many old timers just can&#8217;t seem to get past the old 2 second doneness temperature standards..</p><p>Although its perfectly safe to cook poultry ala sous-vide to an internal temp as low as 131.5 most people prefer the texture of chicken breasts cooked sous-vide at about 140 or so.. The main benefit here is that 140 degrees is just below the point where protein cells begin to rupture and release their moisture content yet high enough to kill all those nasty pathogens given the proper time..</p><p>For example there&#8217;s no other cooking method that can safely compete with Sous-vIde in producing a tender moist skinless boneless chicken breast without the risk of under cooking..    You would need to cook a chicken breast up to 185 internal to make it as safe to eat as the Same chicken breast cooked Sous-vide at 140 for 1.5 hours, Now which one do you think is going to be moist and tender and which one is going to be saw dust.</p><p>All cooking is a form of pasteurizing which kills the nasty pathogens that make you sick. Now those pathogens  can either be killed by high temperatures maintained  for 2 seconds or low temperatures maintained for much longer period of times. All normal food related Pathogens that can be eradicated at 165-185 degrees  can also be eradicated at 131.5 which is the lowest temperature that will eradicate them.. Of course the main pathogens we are concerned with here are Listeria, E-coil, Salmonella and Botulism</p><p>Once again Pasteurizing is time and temperature variable, Once you understand this Sous-vide opens up a whole new world of amazing flavors and textures but its one of those cooking methods where you need to be at least 10 percent smarter than the equipment you&#8217;re using</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Feed Us Back: banana beer and sous vide suggestions</title><link>http://www.endlesssimmer.com/2010/07/26/extreme-simmer-the-sousvide-supreme/comment-page-1/#comment-63428</link> <dc:creator>Feed Us Back: banana beer and sous vide suggestions</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:05:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=13357#comment-63428</guid> <description><![CDATA[[...] Lastly, thanks for all the sous vide suggestions &#8212; more sous vide-ing at home posts to come, [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lastly, thanks for all the sous vide suggestions &#8212; more sous vide-ing at home posts to come, [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Don&#8217;t Stop Sous Vide-ing &#124; Endless Simmer</title><link>http://www.endlesssimmer.com/2010/07/26/extreme-simmer-the-sousvide-supreme/comment-page-1/#comment-60457</link> <dc:creator>Don&#8217;t Stop Sous Vide-ing &#124; Endless Simmer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:24:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=13357#comment-60457</guid> <description><![CDATA[[...] last sous vide post for [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] last sous vide post for [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: A Half Baked Idea: Sous Vide Cookie Dough &#124; Endless Simmer</title><link>http://www.endlesssimmer.com/2010/07/26/extreme-simmer-the-sousvide-supreme/comment-page-1/#comment-60200</link> <dc:creator>A Half Baked Idea: Sous Vide Cookie Dough &#124; Endless Simmer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:24:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=13357#comment-60200</guid> <description><![CDATA[[...] crazy ESers asked for it, and you got it. After playing around with my SousVide Supreme and being rather underwhelmed cooking just meat and veggies, I asked you for some crazier ideas. My [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] crazy ESers asked for it, and you got it. After playing around with my SousVide Supreme and being rather underwhelmed cooking just meat and veggies, I asked you for some crazier ideas. My [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BS</title><link>http://www.endlesssimmer.com/2010/07/26/extreme-simmer-the-sousvide-supreme/comment-page-1/#comment-59973</link> <dc:creator>BS</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:44:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=13357#comment-59973</guid> <description><![CDATA[@ bliz - why do you recommend asparagus? and why peeled?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ bliz &#8211; why do you recommend asparagus? and why peeled?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bliz</title><link>http://www.endlesssimmer.com/2010/07/26/extreme-simmer-the-sousvide-supreme/comment-page-1/#comment-59956</link> <dc:creator>Bliz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:11:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=13357#comment-59956</guid> <description><![CDATA[I second the cookie dough idea (or third i guess). We&#039;re actually playing around with sousviding our ice cream so we don&#039;t have to go through the mess of making creme anglaise and i&#039;m really looking forward to seeing how it&#039;s going to come out.
Totally agree about red meat benefiting the most from the method, but you should try some peeled asparagus maybe. Or some chunked potatoes and turn it into mashed potatoes. That way you can play with the science and cook a little bit too.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second the cookie dough idea (or third i guess). We&#8217;re actually playing around with sousviding our ice cream so we don&#8217;t have to go through the mess of making creme anglaise and i&#8217;m really looking forward to seeing how it&#8217;s going to come out.</p><p>Totally agree about red meat benefiting the most from the method, but you should try some peeled asparagus maybe. Or some chunked potatoes and turn it into mashed potatoes. That way you can play with the science and cook a little bit too.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BS</title><link>http://www.endlesssimmer.com/2010/07/26/extreme-simmer-the-sousvide-supreme/comment-page-1/#comment-59945</link> <dc:creator>BS</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:45:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=13357#comment-59945</guid> <description><![CDATA[OMFG, sous vide cookie dough might just be the most brilliant thing I have ever heard. Who wants to come over for lobster tail and cookie dough?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMFG, sous vide cookie dough might just be the most brilliant thing I have ever heard. Who wants to come over for lobster tail and cookie dough?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: gansie</title><link>http://www.endlesssimmer.com/2010/07/26/extreme-simmer-the-sousvide-supreme/comment-page-1/#comment-59935</link> <dc:creator>gansie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 03:20:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=13357#comment-59935</guid> <description><![CDATA[what about cookie dough. but don&#039;t cook it long enough where it actually turns into a cookie, just so it heats through and kills any harmful crap. so it could be one gooey, warm, doughy, chocolaty, gushy thing.
(confession - i used to heat up purchased cookie dough in the microwave)]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about cookie dough. but don&#8217;t cook it long enough where it actually turns into a cookie, just so it heats through and kills any harmful crap. so it could be one gooey, warm, doughy, chocolaty, gushy thing.</p><p>(confession &#8211; i used to heat up purchased cookie dough in the microwave)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nick (Macheesmo)</title><link>http://www.endlesssimmer.com/2010/07/26/extreme-simmer-the-sousvide-supreme/comment-page-1/#comment-59933</link> <dc:creator>Nick (Macheesmo)</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:18:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=13357#comment-59933</guid> <description><![CDATA[You should try to sous vide like the biggest thing that fits in the bag.  I don&#039;t even know what that would be... but something big.
Like an entire pork shoulder.
Or a watermelon.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should try to sous vide like the biggest thing that fits in the bag.  I don&#8217;t even know what that would be&#8230; but something big.</p><p>Like an entire pork shoulder.</p><p>Or a watermelon.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Liza</title><link>http://www.endlesssimmer.com/2010/07/26/extreme-simmer-the-sousvide-supreme/comment-page-1/#comment-59931</link> <dc:creator>Liza</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:45:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=13357#comment-59931</guid> <description><![CDATA[@sushi - good question about the plastic chemicals! I&#039;m curious too.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sushi &#8211; good question about the plastic chemicals! I&#8217;m curious too.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>