Comments on: Paging PETA: Vegetarianism is Not the New Weight-Loss Secret http://www.endlesssimmer.com/2009/04/10/paging-peta-vegetarianism-is-not-the-new-weight-loss-secret/ - recipes, restaurants, food travel and everything edible Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:02:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Maidshttp://www.endlesssimmer.com/2009/04/10/paging-peta-vegetarianism-is-not-the-new-weight-loss-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-52948 Maids Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:30:04 +0000 http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=3529#comment-52948 A-mazing! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/26/petas-new-save-the-whales_n_261134.html A-mazing! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/26/petas-new-save-the-whales_n_261134.html

]]> By: Paul and Yoko Break the Ice — Over Food | Endless Simmer - A Food Bloghttp://www.endlesssimmer.com/2009/04/10/paging-peta-vegetarianism-is-not-the-new-weight-loss-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-40581 Paul and Yoko Break the Ice — Over Food | Endless Simmer - A Food Blog Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:30:41 +0000 http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=3529#comment-40581 [...] porn, and (oh yeah) information about the effect of excessive meat-eating on the environment. Like PETA, MFM also tries to lure us into vegetarianism with a list of celebs who don’t dig on flesh [...] [...] porn, and (oh yeah) information about the effect of excessive meat-eating on the environment. Like PETA, MFM also tries to lure us into vegetarianism with a list of celebs who don’t dig on flesh [...]

]]> By: Is Organic Always Good?http://www.endlesssimmer.com/2009/04/10/paging-peta-vegetarianism-is-not-the-new-weight-loss-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-37905 Is Organic Always Good? Fri, 15 May 2009 17:55:11 +0000 http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=3529#comment-37905 [...] Granted, I’m no scientist…. just another biologist’s daughter (I think I may have mentioned that before). I guess I could look for more info in the much lauded peer reviewed journals…. But I prefer [...] [...] Granted, I’m no scientist…. just another biologist’s daughter (I think I may have mentioned that before). I guess I could look for more info in the much lauded peer reviewed journals…. But I prefer [...]

]]> By: cyanhttp://www.endlesssimmer.com/2009/04/10/paging-peta-vegetarianism-is-not-the-new-weight-loss-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-36538 cyan Fri, 01 May 2009 16:47:56 +0000 http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=3529#comment-36538 i think PETA is tailoring their ads to an american/western audience of *potential* vegetarians, who would generally only adopt a vegetarian diet for the health benefits, rather than religious or philosophical reasons. i'm speaking generally, here: I know there are plenty of spiritual and philosophical veggies out there. But think about it: there's little in christian thought or history to relate to a veggie approach, and people who are culturally grounded in christian background (even if they don't go to church) won't easily relate to religious reasons for not eating meat. several 19-20c christian health movements did adopt vegetarianism, but they were considered somewhat offbeat (ie Kellog, et al). so the message for dietary change would have to be rooted in something else that a broad audience can relate to. i find PETA mostly obnoxious and sensationalist, but in linking veggie diet to health and fitness, they are simply following a train of thought that already exists in US. big deal. i think PETA is tailoring their ads to an american/western audience of *potential* vegetarians, who would generally only adopt a vegetarian diet for the health benefits, rather than religious or philosophical reasons. i’m speaking generally, here: I know there are plenty of spiritual and philosophical veggies out there. But think about it: there’s little in christian thought or history to relate to a veggie approach, and people who are culturally grounded in christian background (even if they don’t go to church) won’t easily relate to religious reasons for not eating meat. several 19-20c christian health movements did adopt vegetarianism, but they were considered somewhat offbeat (ie Kellog, et al). so the message for dietary change would have to be rooted in something else that a broad audience can relate to. i find PETA mostly obnoxious and sensationalist, but in linking veggie diet to health and fitness, they are simply following a train of thought that already exists in US.

big deal.

]]> By: Angelinehttp://www.endlesssimmer.com/2009/04/10/paging-peta-vegetarianism-is-not-the-new-weight-loss-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-36431 Angeline Thu, 30 Apr 2009 06:48:05 +0000 http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=3529#comment-36431 Word, Jordan. PETA makes me feel bad for being a vegetarian, and I cringe when people associate me with them. It's hugely disappointing that PETA simply shrugs off criticisms of its sexist, racist campaigns in exactly the way Jiggle Billy does above--Any media is good media. What a despicable organisation. Word, Jordan. PETA makes me feel bad for being a vegetarian, and I cringe when people associate me with them.

It’s hugely disappointing that PETA simply shrugs off criticisms of its sexist, racist campaigns in exactly the way Jiggle Billy does above–Any media is good media.

What a despicable organisation.

]]> By: andrewhttp://www.endlesssimmer.com/2009/04/10/paging-peta-vegetarianism-is-not-the-new-weight-loss-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-35596 andrew Tue, 21 Apr 2009 05:12:55 +0000 http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=3529#comment-35596 I just saw Alicia Mayer's new vegetarian PSAs on PETAAsiaPacific.com! I'm a big fan of hers and I'm happy to see she's speaking out for animals. You can see her sexy new ads <a href="http://www.petaasiapacific.com/feature-alicia-mayer.asp?c=papfsam" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>. There’s even a video of behind-the-scenes footage from the PETA photo shoot! Alicia is apparently longtime vegetarian, who went made the switch in diet because of the horrific conditions on factory farms where animals are raised for food. Who knew! I’ve always been a huge fan of Diether Ocampo, but I like him even more now that he’s spoken out against zoos! I just stumbled across <a href="http://www.petaasiapacific.com/feature_diether_ocampo.asp?c=papfsdo" rel="nofollow">THIS FEATURE</a> on PETAAsiaPacific.com which has a hot new ad featuring Diether painted like a zebra, and a really cool video that has behind-the-scenes footage of the PETA photo shoot! So awesome! I just saw Alicia Mayer’s new vegetarian PSAs on PETAAsiaPacific.com! I’m a big fan of hers and I’m happy to see she’s speaking out for animals. You can see her sexy new ads HERE. There’s even a video of behind-the-scenes footage from the PETA photo shoot! Alicia is apparently longtime vegetarian, who went made the switch in diet because of the horrific conditions on factory farms where animals are raised for food. Who knew!

I’ve always been a huge fan of Diether Ocampo, but I like him even more now that he’s spoken out against zoos! I just stumbled across THIS FEATURE on PETAAsiaPacific.com which has a hot new ad featuring Diether painted like a zebra, and a really cool video that has behind-the-scenes footage of the PETA photo shoot! So awesome!

]]> By: jordanhttp://www.endlesssimmer.com/2009/04/10/paging-peta-vegetarianism-is-not-the-new-weight-loss-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-34748 jordan Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:24:40 +0000 http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=3529#comment-34748 Thank you, Maids, for posting about this. I've been alienated by PETA's campaigns and extremely questionable ethics for as long as I've been veg (8 years vegetarian before going vegan 6 years ago; that is, quite a while!). I tend to just ignore whatever kind of of shallow attention grabs they put out there, but the yearly voting on the world's "sexiest vegetarians," now with the new "girl/boy next door" category to add to the festivities, always gets me down. The lettuce leaf bikini girls are bad enough, but now, every vegetarian in the world is, whether we like it or not, in the running for one big hot-or-not game once a year, and while it's not new, I'm feeling extra sick of it this year. If these kinds of "activist" actions are the best the vegetarian movement can do to educate and recruit people, we're pretty well fucked. I like to believe that humanity is capable of better, but PETA lets me down every time. Thank you, Maids, for posting about this.

I’ve been alienated by PETA’s campaigns and extremely questionable ethics for as long as I’ve been veg (8 years vegetarian before going vegan 6 years ago; that is, quite a while!). I tend to just ignore whatever kind of of shallow attention grabs they put out there, but the yearly voting on the world’s “sexiest vegetarians,” now with the new “girl/boy next door” category to add to the festivities, always gets me down. The lettuce leaf bikini girls are bad enough, but now, every vegetarian in the world is, whether we like it or not, in the running for one big hot-or-not game once a year, and while it’s not new, I’m feeling extra sick of it this year.

If these kinds of “activist” actions are the best the vegetarian movement can do to educate and recruit people, we’re pretty well fucked. I like to believe that humanity is capable of better, but PETA lets me down every time.

]]> By: Mollyhttp://www.endlesssimmer.com/2009/04/10/paging-peta-vegetarianism-is-not-the-new-weight-loss-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-34736 Molly Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:33:49 +0000 http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=3529#comment-34736 i'm with you, maids. thanks for saying something. i’m with you, maids. thanks for saying something.

]]> By: Jiggle Billyhttp://www.endlesssimmer.com/2009/04/10/paging-peta-vegetarianism-is-not-the-new-weight-loss-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-34669 Jiggle Billy Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:43:37 +0000 http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=3529#comment-34669 Dear Maids, I understand your point, but I hope you would admit that the critique is bidirectional. You say that the image preys on an inappropriate cultural fascination with the institutional prison-like surroundings and the beefy sexualized black man. Equally valid is that the image succeeds because of a current cultural fascination with urban grit and a totally hot muscular dude. Deconstruction only works if you sum all possible interpretations, including the factual ones: if it looks institutional, so does all of LA and the poor fenced-in LA River against which this image is set. The model, then, is not caged, and is rather outside of the cage, on a sidewalk bridge used by thousands of people each day. If it's a trope instead of just a sexy picture, it's a darn good one, recognizable to Angelinos as, “zomg, this guy was posing in my neighborhood.” I apologize if I'm not weighing the argument with the same criteria, but I can sum up my approach in two brief statements. PETA agitates for press. That’s undisputable. Showing video to entering patrons of KFC’s farm workers engaged in absurd violence against sick, injured chickens is offensive to many, but honest and informative. Mr. Sexy Vegetarian loved his photo shoot and is a really nice, really fit vegetarian guy who voluntarily entered this competition. Dear Maids,

I understand your point, but I hope you would admit that the critique is bidirectional. You say that the image preys on an inappropriate cultural fascination with the institutional prison-like surroundings and the beefy sexualized black man. Equally valid is that the image succeeds because of a current cultural fascination with urban grit and a totally hot muscular dude. Deconstruction only works if you sum all possible interpretations, including the factual ones: if it looks institutional, so does all of LA and the poor fenced-in LA River against which this image is set. The model, then, is not caged, and is rather outside of the cage, on a sidewalk bridge used by thousands of people each day. If it’s a trope instead of just a sexy picture, it’s a darn good one, recognizable to Angelinos as, “zomg, this guy was posing in my neighborhood.”

I apologize if I’m not weighing the argument with the same criteria, but I can sum up my approach in two brief statements.

PETA agitates for press. That’s undisputable. Showing video to entering patrons of KFC’s farm workers engaged in absurd violence against sick, injured chickens is offensive to many, but honest and informative.

Mr. Sexy Vegetarian loved his photo shoot and is a really nice, really fit vegetarian guy who voluntarily entered this competition.

]]> By: Maidshttp://www.endlesssimmer.com/2009/04/10/paging-peta-vegetarianism-is-not-the-new-weight-loss-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-34663 Maids Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:59:59 +0000 http://www.endlesssimmer.com/?p=3529#comment-34663 Dear Jiggle Billy, Thanks for your response. ;-) I mentioned being a biologist's daughter not to lend credibility to my claim that vegetarianism doesn't make a person skinny, but rather as an explanation of the source of my early and intense love of the critters. I do appreciate the dialogue, but I have to emphasize that I was really really saddened by the image on the right. The barbed wire, the chain link fence, the institutional prison-like surroundings and the beefy over-sexualized black man..... I'm sad that PETA feels the need to rely on such a tired trope in order to get media attention. I think it degrades an important message and may in fact offend those who would be otherwise sympathetic to some of PETA's ideas. Dear Jiggle Billy,
Thanks for your response. ;-) I mentioned being a biologist’s daughter not to lend credibility to my claim that vegetarianism doesn’t make a person skinny, but rather as an explanation of the source of my early and intense love of the critters.
I do appreciate the dialogue, but I have to emphasize that I was really really saddened by the image on the right. The barbed wire, the chain link fence, the institutional prison-like surroundings and the beefy over-sexualized black man…..
I’m sad that PETA feels the need to rely on such a tired trope in order to get media attention. I think it degrades an important message and may in fact offend those who would be otherwise sympathetic to some of PETA’s ideas.

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